Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Choices, Consequences, and Death

Now that we have reached the end of the Zeffirelli film version of Romeo and Juliet, I am curious to know what your thoughts are on the choices the main characters made in the end, what lead to those choices, whether or not they were avoidable, and how the tragic ending makes you feel.

You know the situation: Juliet fakes her death and the Friar tries to send a letter out to Romeo to let him know what they are planning. Before the letter can get to Romeo, Romeo finds out that Juliet is dead. Again, he acts hastily and buys poison from an apothecary. He visits Juliet in her tomb, and just as she is about to wake up, he dies. Juliet, seeing her lover dead, takes his knife and stabs herself to death.

So here are my questions for you to consider:

1. Was this ending avoidable?
2. What do you think about the choices Romeo and Juliet made?
3. Are they solely to blame for their fates?
4. How did their deaths make you feel?
5. Do situations like this happen today? Could they? Why or why not?

Since Romeo and Juliet is a tragedy, it is possible to look at both of the young protagonists as flawed but ultimately sympathetic characters.

What are the flaws of the young lovers?
Are they sympathetic characters? Do you feel bad for them?

47 comments:

ayesha =] said...

I think that this ending definetly could have been avoided. If the Friar hadnt suggested this crazy plan for Romeo and Juliet to run away with each other then all of this could have been avoided, I mean if he can think of something that complex, then Im sire he could have thought of something simpler than that.
I dont neccessarily agree with the choices that Romeo and Juliet made, but I could see where they were coming from. Romeo thought Juliet was dead, so he killed himself, Juliet knew that Romeo was dead so she killed herself.
I dont think that Romeo and Juliet are solely to blame for their fates. First off, there is the Friar who initiated all of the lets pretend to be dead chaos, and then there are the feuding families. The families hate for eachother (for reasons that are never made clear) surpassed their feelings for their own children.
Romeo and Juliets deaths made me feel like sometimes, no matter what kind of life you live (as in affluency) your fate can never be spelled out for you
I dont think that situations like this happen today, because there isnt alot of love at first sight today, Im sure they could happen today, if two people became infatuated with eachother and would do anything, even kill someone. I think that things like this could happen today because nothing is impossible until you stop trying.

gatorbasketball said...

of course it was you dont have to kill yourself just because you think youre lover is dead. they hardly knew each other. they had spent very little time together and that time was spent making out. i thought both of their decisions were stupid. they made the decision to kill themselves but this whole thing could have been evoided if the friar hadnt had come up with this plan. i felt that if they were stupid enough to kill themselves then they deserve to die. things like this still happen today just not as much. people get over thing better now.

gatorbasketball said...

i disagree with iesha

gatorbasketball said...

and i disagree with alvin

Joe Pemberton said...

Was the ending avoidable?
I belive that there aer several different reasons on why the ending could have been avaoided. My first thought as to why it could have been avaoided was that if the priest(the man who gave Juliet the poison, i dont know his name) wouldn't have gave Juliet the poison to fake her death. It seems like a resonable plan, at the time but maybe if he had thought about it before hand the tragity wouldnt have occured.
My second thought as to why the ending could have been avoided was if the mail deliver could have riden somthing a little faster then a slow donkey. You would think that if a message that important really needed to get to someone quickly, they would have a quicker way to send it, such as riding a hourse. Also if Romeo's freind hadnt told him so quickly then Romeo wouldnt have tooken off so fast.
My third thought as to why the ending could have been avoided was that Juliet could have just ran away during the night and found Romeo, and they could run away together, or they could just tell people about there marriage.
And finally my third thought as to why the ending could have been avoided, was that Romeo could have not killed himself so suddonly, and I am curious as to why Romeo stopped to get Poison on the way, it didnt show him stoping anywhere, and it just appeared out of know where. So I belive that there were several ways for the ending to not turn out how it was, but its a movie and the director can do what ever he wants.

Gabriel said...

I agree with Ayesha. I do think that this ending was avoidable in many ways. First of all, if the Friar had though through his plan a little more he would have realized that there are some flaws that could could result in serious consequences, as happened. Also, Romeo could have tried to live his life without his lover and then soon realized that she was alive, though this would be very hard to do. i think that Romeo made the wrong choice by killing himself, although it may have seemed like the perfect thing to do at that time. he should have not been so hasty in his choices and thought about how killing himself would have affected his family and others. Then, along the same lines, I think Juliet's choice was very foolish. They are not the only ones to blame, the friar I think should take the most plan because he started the whole thing by coming up with this plan. Also, though not reasonable, Romeo's servant is to blame a little along with the messenger who sent the letter to Romeo. The messenger didn't go fast enough and the servant made Romeo believe that Juliet was dead though he believed it too and that is probably his job. Their deaths made me think how dumb they were because a few minutes after Romeo dies, Juliet wakes up so if he had waited he would have known the plan. It was also sad how they both ended up dying when they had only known each other for a few days. But I also agree with JD that people who are dumb enough to commit suicide deserve to die. today we also have a lot of crazy and stupid people who take their own lives for dumb reasons. This happens because the world is so corrupt and full of terrorists and maniacs whose minds are all messed up.

Joe Pemberton said...

I agree with what Ayesha was saying about the choices that Romeo and Juliet made. And how they "loved" each other only after a short time. I guess that is like what we talked about the "love at first sight" thing in class. But any way I can see why they would have killed each other, because Romeo thought that Juliet died so he killed himself, and then when Juliet awoke she saw that Romeo killed himself so she killed herself. I think its complecated but makes somwhat of sence to me.

Gabriel said...

i disagree with JD disagreeing with Ayesha but I agree with JD when he disagreed with Alvin.

Maddie :] said...

1. Was this ending avoidable?
I think it was avoidable if the plan was thought out a little more. If the friar would have made sure that Romeo knew the plan before it was set into action. Or if the plan hadn’t taken place at all, but it was a good plan to get them back together, it was just rushed.

2. What do you think about the choices Romeo and Juliet made?
I think that it is really sweet that they would rather die then live with out each other. I think it was over exaggerated because they had only known each other for about a week. But it is still really sweet that they would rather die then live without each other.

3. Are they solely to blame for their fates?
Yes, it was their choice. The friar made the plan but he did not tell them to kill themselves. Everyone is responsible for their own doing, even in this circumstance.

4. How did their deaths make you feel?
Sad because I wanted them to end up together (even though I knew that they wouldn’t)

5. Do situations like this happen today? Could they? Why or why not?
I guess situations could happen like this today (not as extreme though). I’ve never heard of any, but im sure someone has killed themselves becosue a loved one has died.

Unknown said...

I think that this ending could definitely be avoided. I agree with Ayesha, that if the Friar came up with such a complicated plan,he could have came up with a much more simpler one. But I think of changing the ending in another way: Romeo doesn't come to Verona until he gets the frair's letter, and then Romeo, Juliet, and the Friar left Verona and lived happily ever after.
I think that the choices Romeo and Juliet made were reasonable, since they loved each other, and I believe that love makes you blind, and a great example is shown here by Romeo and Juliet, when they didn't think about what was going to happen next.
I don't think that Romeo and Juliet are solely to blame for their fates, because there is the friar who came up with this stupid idea, and there is Romeo's maid, who told him that she died. Well, I guess you couldn't really blame the maid, since he didn't know about the plan.
The death actually made me kindof sad, and I think thats because of the background music (I thought that it was sort of powerful, you know, like, the way they changed the volume at different times.) It also made me think about how much of a powerful feeling love is.
I don't think that situations like this happen a lot today, mainly because love is not what it used to be. Toay, its a mask that you wear on your faces to show others, to be "cool" and "popular". Now, thats just my belief, you don't have to think the same way. But I'm sure that it could happen today, since not everyone doesn't wear love as a mask, and some people wear the "love masks" to show how they feel. So, yeah, I think that it definitely is possible. Agreat example to show that situations like that don't happen toay, is the movie "Titanic." Rose didn't drown herself with Jack!!!
I think that they are simpathetic characters because, what they showed was true love, and they never really showed opposition to the other houses. Also, they were really kind to their maids, unlike Juliet's parents. I actually do feel bad for them, since they could have left Verona and lived happily ever after, but that didn't happen, just because Romeo came earlier. I actually think that the Friar's plan was pretty brilliant.I think that their flaws are when Romeo came back, especially when he was asked to leave Verona, when Romeo killed himself (he could have waited), and when the messenger went really slow (he could have rode a horse, instead of a donkey!), and also when Juliet drank the potion really late. If she drank a little earlier, she could have woken up when Romeo came and they would've lived happily ever after...
I agree with Gabriel about disagreeing with J.D. about disagreeing with Ayesha. I don't agree or disagree with anyone about Alvin's, because I don' see his blog. I agree with Joe about the ways in which the ending could have been avoided...

Maria Korah

Alvin said...

This ending was definitely avoidable, if the friar's messenger wasn't so dumb and ignorant to not check who was riding past him, then Romeo needn't kill himself pointlessly. Romeo and Juliet both made dumb choices in killing them selves, because love isn't everything, at least for me, and life will still go on, maybe you turn emo and cut yourself, but its better than dying. It is their fault that they died because they were the ones who killed them selves,but then again the dumb messenger shouldn't have been taking breaks, he should have kept his head up to keep watch for Romeo. But then again it was also Romeo's fault for killing Tybalt and being banished from the city. Which leads back to Mercutio even starting the fight which got him killed which incited romeo to attack Tybalt. But then it is Romeo's fault that he was ever friends Mercutio who told him to go to the party where he met Juliet. It was also the friar's fault that they died too, because he came up with the idea. So that being said, I don't think it is solely their fault that they died. Their deaths make me feel happy, because it was for the greater good, now the families are kinder to each other, and the fact that they loved each other ad nauseam also was a contributing factor to why I wasn't sad about the untimely deaths of each one.

Situations like this never happen because you could never make a magic potion that makes the other seem dead for 48 hours, and then what is the chance that a couple minutes after Romeo kills himself at the sight of Juliet's dead body, nobody likes someone else that much, its unhealthy. So I don't think they would kill themselves if the person whom they loved sudden;y died.

The flaws in the young lovers is that they could hardly stand being away from each other and couldn't imagine life without the other, which is why they killed themselves.

I don't feel sorry for them because they are dumb and deserve to be dead.

Unknown said...

Alvin, you are mean!!! I mean, how could they be dumb? At least, couldn't you use a politically correct word??? (haha)
Maria Korah

Alvin said...

Post Scriptum
I agree with Jd for disagreeing with me but I disagree with everything else he said, I slso dis agree with Gabriel for agreeing with Jd for disagreeing with me, because thats dumb, I also agree with my self

andi :) said...

The ending definitely could have been avoided, I completely agree with Ayesha in the whole "lets pretend that we are dead" deal. The whole situation seemed unreal.
Romeo and Juliet are not soley to blame for their fate because of the friar's genius idea.
Their choices as a young couple were dramatic. Since both of them each thought the other was dead and they couldn't possibly live without one another, they basically just decided to kill themselves.
Their deaths didn't really have an affect on me, since it is an old movie,it all seemed cheesy.
I don't think situations happen like this everyday. If they did it would be very rare in some "off the wall" country where they practiced some weird religion. (I guess it could happen if you were a major drama queen.)
Romeo and Juliet were way to young to be in love, seriously. They were too immature and because of their so called love, they ended up dead.
Maybe if I lived in the same time period as they did I would feel bad for them, but I do think that they were caught up in the moment and didn't really know what to do.

Emily said...

I believe that the ending was not avoidable, they loved each other so much, and they wanted to be together. I think that it was fate, they would end up together either dead or alive. I think that Juliet made a too hasty decision, but in her situation it was the only way she truly felt that she could see Romeo again. Killing herself is kind of extreme, but she loved Romeo so much she would do anything just to see him alive again. When Romeo thought Juliet was dead he killed himself. He doing the same thing Juliet later did showed that they loved each other very much.

Yes, Romeo could not have killed himself, and could have gone on with his life. They both took their own lives for each other’s sakes, so yes they are to blame for their fates.
I think that they were hopelessly in love and couldn’t help wanting to take their own lives for each other I don’t think I feel bad for them. I think that the flaws of the young lovers are that they make big decisions way too quickly.

It was sad to see them die, but it was nice to think that they ended up together even though they were both dead. I think that in a very rare situation this could happen now, but it is very extreme what Romeo and Juliet did. I think that if someone’s lover dies they grieve, but eventually move on with their lives in hope that someday they’ll see them again

Peter Kraft said...

I definitely think that the ending could have been avoided. The Friar could have sent a messenger that had eyes so he could see that Romeo was riding past him and then Romeo would have known about the whole plan and then he wouldn’t have gone and killed himself, but even if he didn’t know about the plan it was a stupid decision to kill himself just because his love died. I think most of Romeo and Juliet’s decisions were either bad or dumb but they can’t be completely blamed because it was the friar that made the plan in the first place, the messenger that didn’t deliver the message and Romeo’s servant who said she was dead. I think situations happen similar to this but people are better at getting over things now like gatorbasketball said.

tina said...

The ending could have been avioded if the Friar told Romeo the plan before Juliet "died". I think that was a stupid plan in the first place i would judst run away if i was Juliet and go find Romeo. I somewhat agree with the choices they made, but its kinda dumb to kill yourself if your love has died. If i was in love like that strongly i would kill myself becasue that would mean true love to me. The ending was the best part i enjoyed to see that people in the old days actually cared about each other very strongly. It was kinda sad to see both of them die. In the real world these things dont happen because you usually get married at the age of 20 like you Mrs. Harding. Right now if there love dies the person just moves on a finds someone else. Things like this could happene if someone really is obsessed with Shakepspeare they would kill themselves also.

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tyler said...

Yes is could have been avoided. The dumb friar had to make up the plan. If he didn't suggest such a plan nothing would have happened. Also, Romeo noticed that Juliet didn't look dead. He should of thought something was up. I think that their thoughts weren't thought out well at all. They both made careless choices, which ultimately lead to their death. No, they aren't to blame for their fates at all, basically. If the families didn't quarrel or Sir Capulet didn't force Juliet to marry Paris then it would be ok. Also it is the Man servant's fault for telling Romeo the false news. He shouldn't have be so nosy. It was kind of depressing to see them die, but it was also pretty funny how they acted. The story was pretty tragic, though. I don't think that situations do happen like this today. They obviously aren't so dramatic. People kill themselves because they lose their spouses a lot I think. It is obviously impossible, again, to make a potion that makes you look dead. The general idea of the story could happen, but not frequently. Both characters have flaws. One simple flaw for both of them is that they are too obsessed with each other. They are completely dependent on the other. They are sympathetic characters. I do feel bad for them. They are made up. Also, they die, but it is because of their flaws and their surroundings. Some of it could be changed, and some can't. I'm in the middle of feeling sorry for them. I agree with Ayesha on that they weren't completely responsible for their own deaths.

denny said...

yes, all because romeo didn't get a letter.also it could have been if romeo didn't kill tybalt.

stupid for the most part eccept when they thaught of marrying their families to for an alligence between the families. but the rest was just choices that they did not think thruogh because they were blinded by love.

no, because it all could have been avoided if the letter man gave romeo the stupid letter

they made me feel annoyed because the whole conflict could have been avoided if romeo got the stupid letter.

no, because people know how to check if someone was alive or dead. also family fued where people are killed just don't happen anymore.

denny said...

if any body says that this conflict couldn't have been avoided they are RETARDED.

stephanie@mac.com said...

I think that in someways the ending could be avoided, but in others it couldn't. One fault to blame for this scheme was the friar he suggested this absurd idea, and should have made sure romeo knew way before the plot was put into action. But Juliet did agree to the plan so it was also partially her fault.
I can't really explain how I feel about the choices they made. They must have had very strong feelings to feel they couldn't live with out the other one. To think that they made those decisions, is really weird. They say that they were in love and they acted lie it but in my opinion it was lust. I mean they barely knew each other like JD said. I think they were just acting on instinct because those decision were pretty ridiculous.
They are definitely not solely to blame for their fates. The friar definitely has a huge part in it. He did not make sure Romeo knew as I said earlier, and by suggesting this plan and getting Juliet to go along with it. He played a huge role in their deaths.
The deaths were upsetting. And they could have been solved by just one letter. But as Ayesha said it's fate, it happened that way for a reason.
I think it is way more unlikely to happen today. Communication is really easy these days. The problems they had could have been solved by a telephone call,email,text,aim message, facebook etc. So it could but it is doubtful.

ayesha =] said...

I disagree with JD disagreeing with me, but I agree with Gabriel disagreeing with JD about disagreeing with me.
Their decisions are not neccessarily stupid, but they were hasty, making them seem really stupid
and ahem, my name is Ayesha not iesha

Unknown said...

The ending was completely avoidable. As most people said Romeo was way way wayyyyyy to hasty in doing things he runs around stabbing and poisoning not even taking enough time to take things into consideration. If he thought about his life and if there was a point to taking it along with hers he would have realized wow I shouldn’t KILL myself over loosing my love. The choices both made were so stupid if Juliet would have gone with the Fryer she could live out her life in peace and maybe find another Romeo. They thought they were so in love they would kill their selves for each other and how old are they 14 and 16? They were stupid kids who made stupid decisions. They are solely to blame for their deaths they both chose to die. I was shocked when they died the only thought racing through my head was how could they be so stupid. A situation like that one would be pretty rare today they could happen but I don’t think it would last long and I’m not sure that they would go so far as to kill themselves. The flaw of both Romeo and Juliet is that they were too hasty, and to young to actually be in love. They were way to sympathetic towards each other, when Romeo kills Thibolt Juliet doesn’t care she forgives him instantly. I don’t feel bad for either of them I do feel bad that people as dumb as that could actually have existed.

Cassie said...

I think the ending avoidable. If the fryer came earlier to tell Romeo about the plan, he wouldn’t have killed himself and Juliet wouldn’t have killed herself. I also think they both could have had some self control and think about what pain they were going to cause others. I think their choices weren’t smart but when you’re in love, you do things you wouldn’t do normally. In their case, they wouldn’t have committed suicide but because they were so infatuated with each other, they couldn’t stand to live without their lover. I do think they are partially to blame for their fates, but if the fryer hadn’t suggested the whole plan, the tragedy wouldn’t have happened. Their deaths made me sad. I knew it was coming, but it was still sad to see the tragedy. I don’t situations like that happened to day. I guess if someone was in love and that person died, maybe they wouldn’t be too heartbroken and commit suicide, but I don’t think anyone today would kill themselves as soon as Romeo and Juliet did. I think they were to young to be in love and they were too carried away with the situation. I do feel bad for the characters, but they put the whole mess upon themselves.

Unknown said...

Cristina Lopeznieto

1. Was this ending avoidable?
I believe that this ending was most definitely avoidable.

2. What do you think about the choices Romeo and Juliet made?
Romeo and Juliet acted on passion, and on extreme grief. They thought it better to die than to live without each other. Believe me, suicide does not solve anything. It merely leaves everyone else you left behind sad and confused, and angry at you. What kind of reputation are you leaving on earth? You may have lived the most honorable life ever, but if you end it miserably, and if you take your own life away, everyone will remember you as the person that killed themself.

3. Are they solely to blame for their fates?
Romeo and Juliet's actions were influenced by many people and events, so one could say they are not to blame for their suicides, but I say that, in the end, the only ones Romeo and Juliet have to blame for their untimely deaths is themselves, and no one else. No one can control what you do, or what decisions you make. They can influence you, yes, but in the end, your decision is yours. I did think that the Frair shouldn't have abandoned Juliet, however, but both he and her acted on grief or fear, and did not think of what they were doing at the time, so the Friar's decision of running away and Juliet's decision of suicide were both crimes of pure passion, and were not well thought out in the least bit.

4. How did their deaths make you feel?
Romeo and Juliet's deaths were completely unnecessary, which saddened me quite a bit. If Romeo hadn't been so quick to drink that poison, so quick to act (as he had done by killing Tybalt), things would have turned out for the better. They could'v lived happily ever after. But in the end, what screwed everything in the story up is Romeo's fierce passion, and his inability to stop and think about his actions.

5. Do situations like this happen today? Could they? Why or why not?
Situations like this could happen, I guess. Not the exact same situation, but something very, very similar. I don't doubt for a second that a person has killed themself in extreme grief over the loss of their loved one. It's terrible, but it happens. The 'poison that kills you for 24 hours thing' is a bit odd, as Dylan said.

What are the flaws of the young lovers?
They act too quickly. They met, they got married, they made love. All in a very short period of time. I don't think it was true love, I think it was lust, because they were quick to start kissing and jump in bed with eachother. They never sat and talked to eachother. They never thought about their decisions.

Are they sympathetic characters? Do you feel bad for them?
I can't say I was terribly moved by this movie, but it had some good points and highlighted some of man kind's biggest flaws, such as lust before love, and acting too quickly. The characters were very human and flawed, which was admirable in a sense. They weren't perfect. In fact, they were extremely far from it.

Noel said...

The final scene was a cruel act of fate. Though we may believe that stars had not truly deceived Romeo because Juliet was still alive, they did. It was fate that put together the final cruel twist in which Balthasar sees Juliet’s corpse. I cannot truly say whether or not there would have been a way to mend the conflicts. I believe William Shakespeare may have even wanted to say that the only way for the two families to see the errors of their ways was through the death of their young. There was so much enmity that only through the most horrid turn of events could some good arise.
Romeo and Juliet fell in love with their eyes, lusting but not loving. They were youths who saw the world as a marvelous place and each other as keys to heavenly enlightenment. However, they were not truly thinking. William Shakespeare may have wanted to show us the folly of youths. Romeo and Juliet would be a great pair with whom to demonstrate that. Their love was forbidden but “pure.” One’s kiss was to another a cure. They hid their love from stubborn family members who deduced false ideas from the names of their rivals. Their choices could be labeled wrong due to the secrecy of their love, but were their families’ values any better?
The fates of Romeo and Juliet were linked to them. Though one could argue that others played a role in their deaths, tragedy was evident from the beginning. Two families with the utmost contempt from one another would never have understood of the young’s love. Romeo and Juliet fell in love at first sight, and idea none can truly judge as possible or impossible. Logic, however, would have branded it foolish, and would have supported the families. None could believe in such a love as there existed between Juliet and her Romeo. It was a sacred bond which few could understand. Their fates were set from the beginning of time. Two helpless romantics from warring factions, Romeo and Juliet were bound to be cast out of the worlds they were born into. They were not of the same blood or world that their relatives were.
Their deaths were unfortunate and sorrowful. One could feel it in the atmosphere, like the sword of Damocles waiting to be dropped onto their heads. However, when it fell, one still felt that strong pang of pain. One could feel it and accept their deaths before it occurred, stating it was logical. However, Man’s heart shall in the end realize that a grave misfortune has occurred.
I believe situations like these could happen today. If by today, one means modern times, then certainly. Look at “West Side Story”, a modern tale of the same form. However, if one were to mean “today” as in reality, then that is hard to deduce. I believe that all would be possible except for one unknown: love. What is love? How can it happen? Is it real? Is it a myth? I am afraid I cannot answer such a question. It is for each of us to find out during the course of our lives. I personally believe in at least two absolute goods: beauty and love. I have found beauty in life, yet I, too, shall wait for love. Right now, an optimistic youth, I say there is love, and that Romeo and Juliet could exist in reality.
The lovers were flawed in few ways, the gravest being: one was a Capulet, the other was a Montague. It was their sole flaw and misfortune. Had they not been born into such families, they would have been successful in their love. Of course, viewing this from a different standpoint, one could say their blind love was to blame. They did not even know of one another. They loved with their pupils. That is what some may say. However, I believe their last names were to blame. They were good, and having been good, I feel saddened by their tragedy.

spanishturtle93 said...

I think that the ending to this play could have been avoided if Romeo had not been so blinded by love. For if he hadn't been like this he would have thought before killing himself. He should have just waited and, though he thought she would never be with him again, seen if there were others who would come to see if it were true. Of course this wasn't the case, and so he lost his life because of how depressed he was.

Well it depends on which choice is being addressed. If it is how they ran away and got married telling their parents nothing of their plans, then i think that it was a good and bad idea. Good because the families would then at that point be one and the parents would have to accept the fact that fighting was pointless. For then they would be fighting themselves. If you are talking about Juliet faking death to see Romeo, I think that is a bit too extreme. She could have simply run away found Romeo and never returned to the place that used to be her home. If we are talking about how they both killed themselves, then I think that they must have just really loved each other. I mean if they killed themselves because the other was dead, or 'looked' dead, then they obviously thought that the other was that important in their lives (and they may have been).

I don't think that their fates are solely their fault. If the two families weren't so set on hating the other then maybe they would have seen that their son/daughter was in love with the other family, and they would have been ok with it. I think that it is the families part for not letting them interact with the other. So in that, even them killing themselves wasn't entirely their fault. They would probably be dissowned from their own family for loving a member of the other. Perhaps even sentenced to death, who knows. So i don't think they are to blame for any of the actions that they made.

Since this was the first time I have seen this movie, their deaths were quite depressing. One dying because they thought the other was dead, and then the other finding that their love had killed himself because they thought she was dead, and in the end killing herself too, it really was 'tragic'.

I'm sure that somewhere this could happen,but im not aware of it happening, at least that I have heard of. Because people do fall deeply in love and I'm sure make stupid decisions.
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Their main flaws are because of their families, not just because of how in love they are. And yes i do feel bad for them because its not their fault that their parents/family won't allow them to interact. I feel sorry for them because they are in the different families. Its very sad.

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Unknown said...

I think that the ending was definitely avoidable. Besides the fact that the friar's plan was completely idiotic wouldn't Juliet or even the friar realize that she could have left in the middle of the night and just run away. Especially since it was only a short horse ride away.
I think Juliet's choice of pretending to be dead is the major mistake in this story. The other choices Romeo made I can understand including killing Tybalt and killing himself. Although he probably shouldn't have done either I can understand why he did it and it wouldn't be much of a tragedy if he didn't do either.
I don't think it was just there fault. I think it is both families fault for having the feud. If the families weren't enemies then Romeo and Juliet could have married without a problem. It is also the friar's fault for suggesting such a dumb idea.
To be honest I couldn't have cared less that they died, but at least it stopped the families' arguments and battles.
Situations like this happen today all the time. Of course not exactly the same but people kill themselves because the person they loved died or left them very often.
A large flaw the characters have is that neither of them looks into the future to see what might happen them if they make a specific choice. Most of there choices and plans are half baked.

Unknown said...

Lee Johnston

I definitely agree with Ayesha that this ending was totally avoidable. The Friar shouldn't have planned Juliet to fake that she was dead. But, I also believe that Romeo could have made this situation avoidable as well. He shouldn't have killed Tybalt, because then he was exiled, and therefore Romeo and Juliet couldn't be by each other's side. And because of this, the Friar had to communicate to Romeo through a letter, which turned out to be a disaster. I disagree with the choices Romeo and Juliet made. I mean, Juliet shouldn't have faked her death. She shouldn't have agreed with the Friar's absurd plan. And Romeo, Romeo, he shouldn't have made the decision to commit suicide. Even if Juliet had actually been dead, you don't take your own life. Life is too precious. I don't believe that you can only blame Romeo and Juliet for their own deaths though. Like Ayesha mentioned, the Friar also can be blamed for their deaths. If he didn't come up with this crazy plan, none of this would have happened. It was such a shame that these true lovers had to die. It was very tragic. Also, in my opinion, there were many flaws between the two lovers. The most important mistake that they made was, they went against their parents beliefs of marrying someone in the family. That right there created a problem for them. I think that Romeo and Juliet are definitely sympathetic characters, because of the undying love they shared between each other. And, it is a shame that they died so tragically. I don't think that a situation like this would actually occur today. It could happen though. It is very possible, but just not common. I mean, someone could commit suicide because their lover died. Anything is possible.

Logan said...

This ending was avoidable because Romeo was stupid in just killing himself. I understand his one true love died, but there is always a reason to live. You should never kill yourself when you still have so many good years ahead of you. The choices they made were stupid for the reason I just mentioned (for Juliet too). Yes they are solely to blame for their death. I mean they killed themselves they didn't have anyone make them kill themselves. The only person you could blame was the Friar because he came up with the plan. Which had a huge hole in it. They made me laugh because of their stupidity of killing themselves. I mean its ridiculous that they would kill themselves without taking a deep breath and stopping to think. There are situations that are like this but not the same. What I mean is that two people fall in love and one person dies causing the other one to kill themselves. But I dont think that it is common. Most people probably move on.

fuseball54 said...

This ending was completely avoidable. Things just fell in the wrong place for romeo and juliet. Like if the friar's letter had gotten there a little bit faster, or if the sleeping potion had put Juliet to sleep for only 41 hours instead of 42. I thought that the choices that both made in the end was completely ridiculous. So the person you love most in the world just died 'tear', get over it and move on. You don't have to make a dramatic scene and kill yourself. If Romeo had just decided that he was goin' to get himself a new woman, then Juliet would have woken up in time (course then he's got to decide whether to go on after a new woman or stick with the old one.) I think that they are both to blame for their fates because they are big emotional babies. Things did fall into place to seal their fate, but I mean come on, you don't see widows goin' around today poppin' themselves left and right. I think that I would pretty much have to laugh at them when they were dying. I don't feel bad for them, they were both emotional basket cases and were completely unstable as it seemed that they spent their whole lives crying. In my opinion, people like that deserve to die. Things like this could happen today but I don't think that it is very likely. For one thing, society is not built around marriage and romanticizm? like it was back then. And for a second thought, people like to live for the most part in today's world (apparently not the norm back then.)

ben wallace said...

this ending definatly could have been avoided. they are both idiots for killing themselves. you cant be that in love with someone you hardley know. the didnt even talk to each other when they were around. also the frier should have never suggested this ludacris plan. and if the messanger wasnt being such a dunce then he woud have given romeo the letter.
i think that the choices that romeo and juliet made were retarded. if they wouldnt have been so obsessed with each other then they woldnt have killed themselves. but at least the families stopped fighting because of it.
they are not soley to blame for thier deaths, but they are mostly to blame. they made bad desisions but you could blame the frier or the dumb letter person.
thier deaths didnt make me feel good or bad. i didnt want or think that they deserve death but it was thie own stup[idity that caused it. i cant take pity on people who die in a dumb way.
this situation will never happen in todays society because it never happened in real life it was just a play. and either way in todays world there will never be such a communication error when everybody in the world has a cell phone.

gatorbasketball said...

i spell it iesha. dumb is not politically correct the proper term is stupid or dimwitted and i disagree with alvin, iesha,and ben wallace.

Chuck F. Danger said...

1. ok now that iam signed in i can talk about how the ending could most definatly been avoided. peronally, i think the friar was a dumb donkey for not letting Romeo in on his little secret with getting Juliet drunk or whatever and then wake up 42 hours later. in the 42 hours of her dead looking livliness, she was thought to be dead and was placed in a tomb thing where Romeo found the false news about Juliet being dead. therefor he killed himself thinking she was dead. then when she woke up she saw that he was dead and killed herself. OHHH THE "I-ROW-NEE"! But this could have been avoided by the friar letting Romeo in on his plans.
2. HAHA(sorry) im laughing at their stupidity of killing each other. (that is what i think of their actions). i will hand it to them that they must have loved each other a hell-of a lot cause you would think that it would take some serious "Kuh-hoe-nays" to kill yourself.
3. yes and no. yes because well, hell, they killed themselves. but also truly no because they wouldnt have killed themselves if it werent for the ,obviously partially retarded, friar that didnt let Romeo know about the drink he gave juliet to drink to make her fall asleep for 42 hours.
4. i felt really depressed and i pitty them for there stupidness level had been set to extreme.
5. yes there are some situations like this today where people have such an head full of air to kill themselves. (i dont get the could they part but here is what i think you are asking). yes i think they can kill themselves aslong as they have arms to stab themselves or pop pills or drink poison blah blah blah. and legs to run off of something. if they dont have either they cant kill themselves. (well i take that back) they could like bang their head on a wall or something. but i would imagine times would have to be really bad for something like that to happen (like hillary clinton as our president) sorry. had to say it.

(the un-numbered part). they dont understand if the other lover is breathing(thats a symbolic dramatization. i guess there sypathetic towards each other but obviously not towards themselves or they wouldnt have killed themselves.(they might have wanted to be with each other in heaven or hell). but i do feel bad for them cause i think its sad that they are dumb enough to kill themselves. (ok im going to get off of that killing themselves subject and go for a new one). i feel bad for them because two young healthy(i think) lovers killed themselves for each other because thy lovers were smothered in "THEE" love ofr one another.

Chuck F. Danger said...

its actually 9:36

Chuck F. Danger said...

i seem to be the "loudmouth" of both blogs

andrea. said...

I think that the ending to this story was indeed avoidable. Of course, them both killing themselves was not the answer to their problems. I feel that if the Friar hadn't recommended such an intense plan for them to run away together, both of their lives could have been saved. When he suggested this, im sure he knew about everything that could possibly go wrong. He definitly could have come up with something a bit simpler instead of them faking their death.

The choices that Romeo and Juliet made in the story were all out of love for each other. I thought it was really cute how they would rather die than have to live without each other, however, I think the whole thing was a bit exaggerated. I guess love at first sight is possible, but they had really only known each other for a a little while. I didnt actually agree with their choices in the end, but I could understand what they were thinking. They decided they didn't want to live without each other so when Romeo thought Juliet was dead, he killed himself so he could be with her, and when Juliet saw Romeo dead, she stabbed herself so she would not have to live without him.

I don't think Romeo and Juliet are solely to blame for their actions. They couldn't help that their families greatly disliked each other, I mean, they obviously didn't initiate the quarreling among them. If the families were okay with each other, it would never have panned out the way it did. Maybe, just maybe, if the Friar did not suggest such an absurd plan, it wouldnt have been the way it was either.

Their deaths made me sort of disappointed because I thought it would have been nice if the plan would have worked out and they were able to live happily ever after. The ending was actually predictable and we knew it was never going to happen, but still, it would have been nice.

I thought this was a very dramatic ending to the story. Things like this dont happen that often today because i just think that in general, it is easier to overcome problems becuase there are other people to talk with to overcomeget over obstacles like this. Also, schemes like this usually don't occur becuase they are so absurd that i suppose nobody ever thinks of such a thing.

Chuck F. Danger said...

i agree with the people that said the same stuff as me. i disagree with the people that did vise-versa

Chuck F. Danger said...

hi Andrea

Unknown said...

The ending was way to short, of course it could have been avoidable and that it should have been avoided Killing yourself over a lover isn't something that has to be taken so dramatically, I actually think that the Friar's plan was pretty brilliant. I think that theirwere some flaws were going to happen when Romeo came back, especially when he was asked to leave Verona, when Romeo killed himself only when he saw romeo dead did he regret his decision, The Frier had a quick and hasty solution for all of Juliet's and Romeo's problems, "fake kill juliet, and get them together, I don't agree with the choices that Romeo and Juliet made, but I could see where they were coming from. Romeo thought Juliet was dead, so he killed himself, Juliet knew that Romeo was dead so she killed herself. I dont think that types of things like this happen today, because there isnt alot of love at first sight today, i bet that it could happen today, if two people became infatuated with each other and would do the unthinkable, even kill someone. I think that things like this could happen today because nothing is impossible, until you give up. and let go of your dreams.
-Zach Tyblt

bulldawg21 said...

I believe that the ending could have easily been avoided. One way would have been if the Friar would have delivered the letter to Romeo quicker or came up with the plan before this had happened.

I think that the choices of Romeo and Juliet were good to some what good but not a great decission. I think that their decissions were actually kind of harsh on their part.

I do not believe that they are soley to blame for their fates. One reason would be because Romeo thought that Juliet was dead so he killed hisself and then when Juliet saw that Romeo was dead she stabbed herself with his knife. So it is to some extent the Friars fault. Another reason would be because the families hate each other and the second part to their fates is due to the families.

Seeing them die was sad but at least they ended up together in the same place. I believe that this situation would be rare if it happened in todays life.

dgdg said...

Travis Smith

That was a stupid ending. they didnt need to die there are plenty of other women out there. he should have just cried and got over it. i guess they were really in love but it still was stupid to die over it.
the choices they made were bad to but it was manly the fryers falt they died he could have just taken juliet to see him but instead he had here fack her death wich was a bad choice, and there were a lot of bad consequences

Alex said...

I think both this ending was avoidable.Seeing your spouse dead doesn't have to cause you to kill yourself. I do not agree with the choices that Romeo and Juliet. Romeo and Juliet are not the only one to lame for their fates, their families choices definately had an affect. Their decisions made me feel that for the most part you can decide your fate. I dont think thing like this happen today, in America anyways, maybe in some other country.

Tebow's Amazing (Parker) said...

yes the ending was avoidable

Romeo was stupid for killing himself just because he thought Juliet died.

yes they are soley to blame for their fates.

i thought it was quite commical and ironic at the same time.

no because theres not potion and crap like that that will make you seem dead for 48 hours

josiah said...

meh
i think the whole thing was avoidable but only if you go back as to when the whole family fuid even began. other than that it was there emotion driven choices and the two families hate for eachother that ultimately killed both romeo and juliet. i think that romeo and juliet made some very wrong decisions on there part and that yes the friar had ahand in getting them both killed he should not be blamed. i think that when the capulets finally found out that juliet was alive that they would start more bloodshed maybe even juliets own for marrying romeo and pretending to be dead. i belive because of the family fuid and because of romero's and juliets rash actions a fate similar to,if not the same to this one was inevitable

Unknown said...

yes i agree with Ayesha. It could have been avoided I mean Romeo could of still gotten to her without this messed up plan to get them together. I agree with Gabriel about Romeo killing himself. If he just waited then everything would have been fine. I think Juliet made a bad choice ending her life, but it was for her lover so it makes sense. No their families are to also blame because they wouldn't have to sneak around like that or the fight wouldn't have happened.
The deaths made me sad but since i already knew what was going to happen it wasn't as exciting.
I'm sure plenty of situations happen like that today. I'm sure not to that degree, but sometimes parents don't want there kids to date a certain race or religion.

P.S. sorry it's so late